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Does anyone know what the Logistics Surcharge is? It appears by the name that we are charged freight twice - Once via the Logistics surcharge and once by the destination charge. That would mean even though I am only 150 miles from the factory that the surcharge and freight add up to $2250. WTH?
 

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To me slingshots are like vettes. They never go out of style. If I were to upgrade from my 2015 I would look for a low mile 2019 or earlier. That's why I decided to supercharge after 78,000 miles. Made more sense $$$$ wise. Now with 93k+ I'm upgrading the audio system. Again much more $$$$ friendly.
 

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To me slingshots are like vettes. They never go out of style. If I were to upgrade from my 2015 I would look for a low mile 2019 or earlier. That's why I decided to supercharge after 78,000 miles. Made more sense $$$$ wise. Now with 93k+ I'm upgrading the audio system. Again much more $$$$ friendly.
If I get one I hope it is built better than my Corvette. Looking at used now.
 

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Thanks.

Do you have a delivery date estimate?

Getting pretty put off by the whole dealer experience. Markups on accessories, labor/install fees on accessories, and freight added on top of the already high prices.

I'm really considering getting an R, but just my build MSRP is already what I paid out the door for a brand new 2020 Mustang GT Premium 6 speed with performance pack last year. With all the fees it's thousands more...
 

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Does Polaris use their own delivery trucks and drivers, or do they farm this out? This could account for the increased shipping costs?

Just to share our experience back in May of 2015 where we found our SlingShot at our nearest dealer 90 miles away. In 2015 there were two models only, either a Titanium Metallic Base or a Red Pearl SL. Now while others across the country were waiting for months after ordering their SlingShots, we simply walked into the showroom and there were two Base models @ $19,999 each and one SL @ $23,999, we chose the SL. We paid the $23,999 with no additional charges, the dealer threw in the cockpit cover no charge, and within an hour of arriving, my wife was following me home with our new SlingShot. (About a third of the way my wife and I switched vehicles to give her a turn, and then after approximately another third I took over again.) We had the only SlingShot in town for over three years. :D

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This is what the dealer emailed me tonight after questioning the price increases/fees:


  1. Yes the parts mark up is a 3% logistics surcharge that Polaris has placed on all parts and accessories.
  2. The $1350 is the factory freight charge and the $900 is the currently logistics surcharge on Slingshots

These fees are all exactly what we are charged from Polaris. We are not “marking up” any of these. Unfortunately these fees are just part of the cost of manufacturing things right now. Just want to be 100% transparent with the purchase. I know a lot of dealers won’t give you all the information and like to add things in as the process moves along, but I like to be completely honest and upfront with my customers.
 

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This is what the dealer emailed me tonight after questioning the price increases/fees:


  1. Yes the parts mark up is a 3% logistics surcharge that Polaris has placed on all parts and accessories.
  2. The $1350 is the factory freight charge and the $900 is the currently logistics surcharge on Slingshots

These fees are all exactly what we are charged from Polaris. We are not “marking up” any of these. Unfortunately these fees are just part of the cost of manufacturing things right now. Just want to be 100% transparent with the purchase. I know a lot of dealers won’t give you all the information and like to add things in as the process moves along, but I like to be completely honest and upfront with my customers.
Not Slingshot...but I'm a residential painting contractor... The Sherwin Williams Stores are charging a 3% delivery charge on top of all charges at check out. Sounds like what Polaris is doing. Most of the companies are just hiding those costs.
 

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While Polaris tries to make as many components as possible in-house, many of their parts are sourced off-shore--not just for Slingshots, but across their vast array of products. "Off-shore" generally means "Asia" and that almost always means China. Bottom line: It's a long trip on a cargo ship.

Now, I don't know if you've noticed, but there is some continued election stuff going on in the U.S. that changed the economy so it spun more toward socialism, which means more government control, higher taxes, less availability, long delays, less freedom in all senses of that word, etc. You may disagree with this observation--and I'm fine with that, but I've been in enough 2nd and 3rd world countries to recognize what "the new normal" and "build back better" really mean. Tell you what: Spend some time in Russia and you'll figure out how this all works right-quick. Anyway, I'm sure we can agree that things are different today than they were a year ago.

As a result of "the new normal," or whatever you want to call it, container ships are sitting outside U.S. ports waiting to dock and unload. Waiting around incurs a lot of expense--kind of like at some airports where you now have to keep driving around in circles to pick someone up instead of parking for 5 minutes and waiting for them to locate your vehicle and walk up to it--lots of needless hassle. You're wasting time driving around needlessly, burning fuel, putting miles on your car which is wearing it out, the other person doesn't know where you'll be able to pick them up, all instead of being parked with the engine off and surfing the Internet on your phone. EXCEPT, container ships cost a lot more to operate and also have millions of pounds of cargo worth millions of dollars that someone paid for and can't use--like going to the grocery store and buying food for a Super Bowl party and then being locked out of your home by the government until they decide you can enter--your guests are waiting, the food is paid for, but you're going to sit there.

So, the shipping industry is incurring unexpected additional expense. Someone has to pay for that expense. (That would be you, the U.S. citizen, the source of that expense.) It doesn't matter if it's fruit from Guatemala (you know we import most of our fruit, right?) or whatever else you're buying at the grocery store, home repair center, or car dealer, most of the stuff we buy is imported, and the shipping costs went up. The shipping companies are passing along the expense levied on them in the form of a Logistics Surcharge.

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To answer @bbells: your Corvette will be built much better than a Slingshot. Slingshots are basically ATVs (side-by-sides) with the plastic in different areas. Wayyy back we were surprised Polaris (an off-road company) made a street vehicle, and for the money it's a load of fun. The 2022 Corvette is $60K, about $80 with upgrades, which is about what some really dedicated owners sink into a Slingshot.

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Which is better? A Corvette or a Slingshot? Hmmm.... Let's ask an easier question: Freedom or Totalitarianism?
Well, nobody escaped America on a rubber raft to get to Cuba...

I think we have to face some realities: policy decisions influence outcomes, good or bad. We're now facing higher prices at the grocery store, gas costs 50% more than last year, more people are working from home (or not working), and we're paying Logistics Surcharges on shipped goods.

Some people see this as a good thing: we're consuming less. Pay more, get less. Seems like that would make a great motto.
 

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While Polaris tries to make as many components as possible in-house, many of their parts are sourced off-shore--not just for Slingshots, but across their vast array of products. "Off-shore" generally means "Asia" and that almost always means China. Bottom line: It's a long trip on a cargo ship.

Now, I don't know if you've noticed, but there is some continued election stuff going on in the U.S. that changed the economy so it spun more toward socialism, which means more government control, higher taxes, less availability, long delays, less freedom in all senses of that word, etc. You may disagree with this observation--and I'm fine with that, but I've been in enough 2nd and 3rd world countries to recognize what "the new normal" and "build back better" really mean. Tell you what: Spend some time in Russia and you'll figure out how this all works right-quick. Anyway, I'm sure we can agree that things are different today than they were a year ago.

As a result of "the new normal," or whatever you want to call it, container ships are sitting outside U.S. ports waiting to dock and unload. Waiting around incurs a lot of expense--kind of like at some airports where you now have to keep driving around in circles to pick someone up instead of parking for 5 minutes and waiting for them to locate your vehicle and walk up to it--lots of needless hassle. You're wasting time driving around needlessly, burning fuel, putting miles on your car which is wearing it out, the other person doesn't know where you'll be able to pick them up, all instead of being parked with the engine off and surfing the Internet on your phone. EXCEPT, container ships cost a lot more to operate and also have millions of pounds of cargo worth millions of dollars that someone paid for and can't use--like going to the grocery store and buying food for a Super Bowl party and then being locked out of your home by the government until they decide you can enter--your guests are waiting, the food is paid for, but you're going to sit there.

So, the shipping industry is incurring unexpected additional expense. Someone has to pay for that expense. (That would be you, the U.S. citizen, the source of that expense.) It doesn't matter if it's fruit from Guatemala (you know we import most of our fruit, right?) or whatever else you're buying at the grocery store, home repair center, or car dealer, most of the stuff we buy is imported, and the shipping costs went up. The shipping companies are passing along the expense levied on them in the form of a Logistics Surcharge.

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To answer @bbells: your Corvette will be built much better than a Slingshot. Slingshots are basically ATVs (side-by-sides) with the plastic in different areas. Wayyy back we were surprised Polaris (an off-road company) made a street vehicle, and for the money it's a load of fun. The 2022 Corvette is $60K, about $80 with upgrades, which is about what some really dedicated owners sink into a Slingshot.

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Which is better? A Corvette or a Slingshot? Hmmm.... Let's ask an easier question: Freedom or Totalitarianism?
Well, nobody escaped America on a rubber raft to get to Cuba...

I think we have to face some realities: policy decisions influence outcomes, good or bad. We're now facing higher prices at the grocery store, gas costs 50% more than last year, more people are working from home (or not working), and we're paying Logistics Surcharges on shipped goods.

Some people see this as a good thing: we're consuming less. Pay more, get less. Seems like that would make a great motto.
To Hedgehog: Since you have opened the door for political discussions in the SLINGSHOT FORUMS, - you may have opened Pandora's box. It is obvious, based on your comments, you blame everything on the present administration. Guess Polaris is in that group as well. Take your comments and resign as an administrator for the Forum.
 

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While Polaris tries to make as many components as possible in-house, many of their parts are sourced off-shore--not just for Slingshots, but across their vast array of products. "Off-shore" generally means "Asia" and that almost always means China. Bottom line: It's a long trip on a cargo ship.

Now, I don't know if you've noticed, but there is some continued election stuff going on in the U.S. that changed the economy so it spun more toward socialism, which means more government control, higher taxes, less availability, long delays, less freedom in all senses of that word, etc. You may disagree with this observation--and I'm fine with that, but I've been in enough 2nd and 3rd world countries to recognize what "the new normal" and "build back better" really mean. Tell you what: Spend some time in Russia and you'll figure out how this all works right-quick. Anyway, I'm sure we can agree that things are different today than they were a year ago.

As a result of "the new normal," or whatever you want to call it, container ships are sitting outside U.S. ports waiting to dock and unload. Waiting around incurs a lot of expense--kind of like at some airports where you now have to keep driving around in circles to pick someone up instead of parking for 5 minutes and waiting for them to locate your vehicle and walk up to it--lots of needless hassle. You're wasting time driving around needlessly, burning fuel, putting miles on your car which is wearing it out, the other person doesn't know where you'll be able to pick them up, all instead of being parked with the engine off and surfing the Internet on your phone. EXCEPT, container ships cost a lot more to operate and also have millions of pounds of cargo worth millions of dollars that someone paid for and can't use--like going to the grocery store and buying food for a Super Bowl party and then being locked out of your home by the government until they decide you can enter--your guests are waiting, the food is paid for, but you're going to sit there.

So, the shipping industry is incurring unexpected additional expense. Someone has to pay for that expense. (That would be you, the U.S. citizen, the source of that expense.) It doesn't matter if it's fruit from Guatemala (you know we import most of our fruit, right?) or whatever else you're buying at the grocery store, home repair center, or car dealer, most of the stuff we buy is imported, and the shipping costs went up. The shipping companies are passing along the expense levied on them in the form of a Logistics Surcharge.

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To answer @bbells: your Corvette will be built much better than a Slingshot. Slingshots are basically ATVs (side-by-sides) with the plastic in different areas. Wayyy back we were surprised Polaris (an off-road company) made a street vehicle, and for the money it's a load of fun. The 2022 Corvette is $60K, about $80 with upgrades, which is about what some really dedicated owners sink into a Slingshot.

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Which is better? A Corvette or a Slingshot? Hmmm.... Let's ask an easier question: Freedom or Totalitarianism?
Well, nobody escaped America on a rubber raft to get to Cuba...

I think we have to face some realities: policy decisions influence outcomes, good or bad. We're now facing higher prices at the grocery store, gas costs 50% more than last year, more people are working from home (or not working), and we're paying Logistics Surcharges on shipped goods.

Some people see this as a good thing: we're consuming less. Pay more, get less. Seems like that would make a great motto.

Let's Go Brandon!
 

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While I don't mind a bit of friendly trolling, let's not ruin other people's threads.

Regardless of which side of the isle a person is on (if any), my previous comments (above) seem to remain accurate. Whether you judge the current economy as good or bad, like/dislike a particular political party, that's a value judgement.

What is a reality though is when I go to the hardware store trying to get a building supply as simple as caulk and it's rather difficult as 50% of the usual inventory is now empty bins. Bulk mayonnaise-or even the brand I normally get-gone. A bicycle tire patch? Shelves are empty, I had to import some (which took six months). Car lots-if they have cars-have many still missing chips and can't be sold, and then prices are $2,000 to $4,000 above list. Maybe you're of the opinion those are good things, but if you're my neighbor you probably want me to stick that trim back on my house, for which I need caulk.

In my opinion, "blaming everything on the present administration" wouldn't be prudent, the current state of affairs didn't come to be what it is in the past several years. Polaris in particular has made manufacturing decisions that most people are not privy to long before the current administration. Regardless of how we got here, we're here.
 

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While I don't mind a bit of friendly trolling, let's not ruin other people's threads.

Regardless of which side of the isle a person is on (if any), my previous comments (above) seem to remain accurate. Whether you judge the current economy as good or bad, like/dislike a particular political party, that's a value judgement.

What is a reality though is when I go to the hardware store trying to get a building supply as simple as caulk and it's rather difficult as 50% of the usual inventory is now empty bins. Bulk mayonnaise-or even the brand I normally get-gone. A bicycle tire patch? Shelves are empty, I had to import some (which took six months). Car lots-if they have cars-have many still missing chips and can't be sold, and then prices are $2,000 to $4,000 above list. Maybe you're of the opinion those are good things, but if you're my neighbor you probably want me to stick that trim back on my house, for which I need caulk.

In my opinion, "blaming everything on the present administration" wouldn't be prudent, the current state of affairs didn't come to be what it is in the past several years. Polaris in particular has made manufacturing decisions that most people are not privy to long before the current administration. Regardless of how we got here, we're here.
The right blames the left. The left blames the right. The real culprits here are the rich that sits at the top of the food chain and used the pandemic as another excuse to put the screws to the little guy. Their game plan has always been to keep the working class fighting each other to turn the attention away from them and how they are the ones destroying this country and the rest of the world with it. Ever wonder why These billionaires are putting so much money into leaving this planet? They are going to burn it to the ground and leave. We haven’t, or anyone in any other country, lived in a democracy in many decades.
 

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The right blames the left. The left blames the right. The real culprits here are the rich that sits at the top of the food chain and used the pandemic as another excuse to put the screws to the little guy. Their game plan has always been to keep the working class fighting each other to turn the attention away from them and how they are the ones destroying this country and the rest of the world with it. Ever wonder why These billionaires are putting so much money into leaving this planet? They are going to burn it to the ground and leave. We haven’t, or anyone in any other country, lived in a democracy in many decades.
Well, respectfully, .... you're probably right. I don't know about "the rich" as a whole, or billionaires wanting to leave this planet, but there does seem to be some bad apples causing a lot of rot. I don't see "those in control" giving up control and walking out...doesn't seem to be in the nature of that sort of person. You could be right though.

You know we're both "rich," right? In most places in the world, owning a vehicle makes you "rich." If you own a home...sheesh, that's really, really rich in many people's minds. Owning a Slingshot...come on, that's over the top, and I would think many people would imagine us rolling around in mounds of money in our free time (not that such actually happens). "Being rich" doesn't necessarily make us bad people though.

"Rich." What does that even mean? Does money make us rich? What about happiness? Family? Friends? Does giving make us rich? It's said, "It's better to give than to receive." I often find that to be a true statement.

Personally, I'm thankful for the life I have, and often for what I don't have. Life, if anything, has certainly been an adventure.
 

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Well, respectfully, .... you're probably right. I don't know about "the rich" as a whole, or billionaires wanting to leave this planet, but there does seem to be some bad apples causing a lot of rot. I don't see "those in control" giving up control and walking out...doesn't seem to be in the nature of that sort of person. You could be right though.

You know we're both "rich," right? In most places in the world, owning a vehicle makes you "rich." If you own a home...sheesh, that's really, really rich in many people's minds. Owning a Slingshot...come on, that's over the top, and I would think many people would imagine us rolling around in mounds of money in our free time (not that such actually happens). "Being rich" doesn't necessarily make us bad people though.

"Rich." What does that even mean? Does money make us rich? What about happiness? Family? Friends? Does giving make us rich? It's said, "It's better to give than to receive." I often find that to be a true statement.

Personally, I'm thankful for the life I have, and often for what I don't have. Life, if anything, has certainly been an adventure.
You are trying to say you don’t know what I mean by the rich? Really? I’m guessing you don’t own Amazon or Tesla or Facebook or Fortune 500 company. I seriously doubt anyone on this forum falls into the category of the rich I’m referring to. We are mere peasants to that class and not worthy of any actual empathy or respect. We are just here to build wealth for them in some capacity.
 
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