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I don't see how they can build it and sell it for $6800 . I also think it would have been wise for them to go with an engine that was already in production. Development of a new engine must be eating up a lot of their start up money and time. And if the new motor has issues after it hits the road, it could sink the company.Honestly if they had doubled the expected price of the vehicle I think they could have secured the funding they needed.
You're right. It's a good idea. It's obviously doable. Investors aren't stupid. The advertised price point is the biggest barrier that company is facing. There's no meat left on the bone at that 6800 bucks. They aren't going to be able to make a profit. Even a slim profit isn't going to entice potential investors. Now they are in deep doo doo because they most likely know that the price will need to at least double. The back lash from the public would be catastrophic.I don't see how they can build it and sell it for $6800 . I also think it would have been wise for them to go with an engine that was already in production. Development of a new engine must be eating up a lot of their start up money and time. And if the new motor has issues after it hits the road, it could sink the company.
All valid points, but if they could make it work at double the price, that would say a lot about the price of the SSYou're right. It's a good idea. It's obviously doable. Investors aren't stupid. The advertised price point is the biggest barrier that company is facing. There's no meat left on the bone at that 6800 bucks. They aren't going to be able to make a profit. Even a slim profit isn't going to entice potential investors. Now they are in deep doo doo because they most likely know that the price will need to at least double. The back lash from the public would be catastrophic.
You're right it does say a lot about the ss price. Let's say the elio is viable at ~12k. Provided they have perfectly dialed in manufacturing and are able to source parts at a great discount. I really and truly believe the company would succeed. Now add 8 k to that and you can buy a base model ss. You're looking at an aggressive performance oriented machine. Bigger engine, performance suspension, etc. The ss still comes out looking like a bargain. Especially when you throw in the side by side seating. The closest analogy you are going to find is comparing the price of an economy sedan to say a camero or challenger. You're always going to pay more for performance. Fun taxAll valid points, but if they could make it work at double the price, that would say a lot about the price of the SS![]()
And hey, I'm buy'n one so don't everybody jump on me for questioning the SS price, I'm just think'n out loud...
That sneaky little so and so! He's probably skiing on special aquatic Elios around the tropics right now.I harbor a suspicion that EZ is behind Elio Motors. He is pumping money into large storage containers in the islands. He is Mike MTL's Bernie Madoff.
Apples and oranges.You're right it does say a lot about the ss price. Let's say the elio is viable at ~12k. Provided they have perfectly dialed in manufacturing and are able to source parts at a great discount. I really and truly believe the company would succeed. Now add 8 k to that and you can buy a base model ss. You're looking at an aggressive performance oriented machine. Bigger engine, performance suspension, etc. The ss still comes out looking like a bargain. Especially when you throw in the side by side seating. The closest analogy you are going to find is comparing the price of an economy sedan to say a camero or challenger. You're always going to pay more for performance. Fun tax![]()
Yep, fun tax would be the only way to justify the price (and I'm willing to payYou're right it does say a lot about the ss price. Let's say the elio is viable at ~12k. Provided they have perfectly dialed in manufacturing and are able to source parts at a great discount. I really and truly believe the company would succeed. Now add 8 k to that and you can buy a base model ss. You're looking at an aggressive performance oriented machine. Bigger engine, performance suspension, etc. The ss still comes out looking like a bargain. Especially when you throw in the side by side seating. The closest analogy you are going to find is comparing the price of an economy sedan to say a camero or challenger. You're always going to pay more for performance. Fun tax![]()
True, the Elio is a much more costly thing to produce than the SS. So your point is?Apples and oranges.
Yeah, I know. God must be LHAO at me for wasting time on this forumAll we really need to be happy is something to look forward to...
Live in the moment .The now is all you have .
They are totally different machines for totally different purposes.True, the Elio is a much more costly thing to produce than the SS. So your point is?
This forum is a worse time waster than Candy Crush and just about as addictive. But now and again there are terrific pearls for the SS aficionado or soon to be buyer. I love it much to my wife's dismay and lack of understanding.Yeah, I know. God must be LHAO at me for wasting time on this forum![]()
Your comparisons are invalid. The subject was a comparison of Cost to Manufacture. Do you have anything to say about that?They are totally different machines for totally different purposes.
SS= performance, open air, side by side seating, cycle like experience, "asphalt surfing" to use Polaris's now cliché.
Elio= high economy, lowest possible entry price, enclosed, city vehicle, commuter, short trip, pure function vehicle.
Apples and Oranges to the max.
Cessna 150 vs CJ1 525.
Subaru Outback vs. Lambo Huracan.
The only commonality between the SS and the Elio is they are both on wheels.
I can infer them from products of similar complexity and quality. I used SxS ATVs as one example.I don't have the actual real world manufacturing numbers? Where can I see them?
Have you seen them or are you just speculating what they might be?