Changing Trans Lube
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I bought a 4' section of clear hose (1/2" diameter). I jacket up the SS (in order to get under it) to drain the transmission. I then took the fill plug out and stuck one end of the hose into it. I ran the other end up by the oil filter side of the engine. I put a small funnel on the hose and just started pouring the fluid into the hose. I knew how much to put in, so when I got close, I slowed down and stopped when it started to run out. Then, put the plug back in. You will have no issues. It is easy, just a little tight under the SS. Good luck.
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You have enough miles for the (ACTUAL) need for a change??? Wow!
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Some members are being proactive and changing their fluids early AUF because of past posts describing some pretty nasty stuff being drained from the angle drive. But you already knew that didn't you !
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"Nasty" is pretty subjective. Any ACTUAL lab analysis of said liquid???
just curious!
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Shiny little metal slivers (no need for analysis) metal slivers is metal slivers ! And sense it's been said by Polaris "the final machining of the angle drive gears is done during break in" I have to assume the slivers are coming from the angle drive gears."Nasty" is pretty subjective. Any ACTUAL lab analysis of said liquid???
After 40+ years in oil field construction in Supply Chain, I have not been on a project in years the machinists did not drain every piece of equipment on receipt at site and refill with another oil and continue to do so on a pre arrranged schedule until installation the reasoning being condensation
All this in Canada with our variations in weather day to day.
All this in Canada with our variations in weather day to day.
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I finally got around to changing the lubricants in the transmission and angle drive today at 8,000 miles. The angle drive lubricant was dark and there was a thick sludge in the sump, no part numbers, and probably a good thing to get changed. The replacement fluid was Royal Purple 75W-140, (it was what the parts store had on the shelf), which so far hasn't quieted down the whine any but it is now clean and looks real purty like. The transmission lubricant looked like it had just come out of a new bottle and was replaced with Royal Purple 75W-90. I may continue changing the lubricant in the angle drive every 5,000 miles, depending on how it looks in the future, but changing the transmission lubricant every 5,000 miles appears to be a waste of lubricant, time and money, (IMO.) Also, since it appears that paying the extra bucks for the Royal Purple hasn't shown any advantages (yet?), I am thinking I'll be planning ahead next time and have Mobil 1 on hand, switching to it.
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Bill, is the RP xmsn oil rated GL-3 that is called for in the manual? I've been thinking about changing mine down the road and there's not many after market oils with that rating anymore; however, Polaris does package quart containers of synthetic GL-3 for about
$12 per quart so I think I will use that. From what I've read, the newer stuff, GL4/5, can be harmful to synchronizers (I think that's what I read) in our type transmission.
$12 per quart so I think I will use that. From what I've read, the newer stuff, GL4/5, can be harmful to synchronizers (I think that's what I read) in our type transmission.
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OK, you got me worried, (a good thing), to where I had not considered how manual transmissions and differentials differ, (GL-3 is specifically for transmissions, GL-4 and GL-5 are for differentials, as I understand it?), and I slipped back in doing more research on the topic to where I was getting ready to dump the purple stuff and install dedicated GL-3 lubricant in the tranny. Then I came across the empty bottle of Royal Purple and stopped to read the label and I quote, "Important Notes: Max Gear is non-corrosive to soft yellow metals (brass, bronze, copper). Safe for use in manual transmissions with Synchronizers...................."
WHEW!!
Though, you are correct where there is no GL rating on the Royal Purple, at least not on the bottle, which makes me wonder now about Mobil 1, in which I intended to originally use??
Anyways, since it appears that I dumped perfectly good lube out of the tranny after 8,000 miles of use, I wouldn't hesitate using Polaris lube again, (I wonder who manufactures it for them?) Though finding the nearly black lubricant and sludge in the angle drive makes me want to find a better replacement lube for it.
Thanks for making me do more digging.................
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I'd also like to know who packages Polaris synthetic stuff; ACDelco makes a GL-3 but I don't believe it is synthetic. A quick internet search didn't turn up any other GL-3 although
at one time I thought there was an aftermarket brand but darned if I can remember now who it was.
at one time I thought there was an aftermarket brand but darned if I can remember now who it was.
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Old thread but I may have found a couple of other options for gear oil for the transmission that I do not believe have been mentioned yet? In researching transmission oil for our Jetta I came across recommendations for AC Delco Synchromesh and Pennzoil Synchromesh. I recently purchased the Pennzoil where it has smoothed out our Jetta tranny quite noticeably and on the bottle it states to be a GL-3 equivalent. It is also significantly cheaper than most of the other alternatives mentioned.
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I have some amsoil 75-90 that is rated GL3 that I used in my Harley's. It is called severe gear transmission fluid. So when I sold my bikes I kept this oil as I knew it would be used on my tranny for the slingshot. Not sure if they still have it on there website.
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Oops, it appears that I may have given a bit of false info here, even though on the bottle it states "Pennzoil Syncromesh MTF is a manual transmission fluid and gear oil with API GL-3 level performance," a friend contacted Pennzoil to confirm and this is the response that he got,
"Pennzoil Synchromesh is not tested to the GL-3 specification. We cannot recommend this for your transmission.
Sincerely,
Don Spence
Help Desk Agent, Shell Tech Center Houston
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There doesn't appear to be a market for GL-3 so most oil manufacturers opted not to get certified or let it lapse if they had it and while most new gear oil meet or exceed none will claim it due to liability issues.
I have searched high and low and the only certified GL-3 is the polaris stuff which is it causes me great pain to use polaris oil in the tranny but everything else would absolutely void the warranty if anything were to develop down the road.
Also I am yet to hear anyone complain about transmission issues or dark tranny oil or bad shifts so that seems to be the one polaris fluid that is worth a damn.
I have searched high and low and the only certified GL-3 is the polaris stuff which is it causes me great pain to use polaris oil in the tranny but everything else would absolutely void the warranty if anything were to develop down the road.
Also I am yet to hear anyone complain about transmission issues or dark tranny oil or bad shifts so that seems to be the one polaris fluid that is worth a damn.
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The only one that I have found so far:
SynPower TDL 75W-90 - Manual Transmission and Axle Oils - Valvoline
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I just chanced across another: Amazon.com: Genuine GM Fluid (89021806) 75W-90 GL-3 Manual Transmission Fluid - 32 oz.: Automotive
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The valvoline would work but the AC delco is not synthetic so it would "void" your warranty.
now if only I could get that locally or their VR racing oil.........
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Well, I am not so sure about that, this is transcribed straight from my Owner's Manual on page 54, "Always use SLINGSHOT Transmission Fluid or another GL-3 rated transmission fluid." I do not find anything stating that it has to be straight synthetic? And, if I am not mistaken, beside the filler hole of the transmission does it not state GL-3?
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