Alpha Turbo vs Hahn Turbo

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BlackDeath

Discussion Starter · Aug 21, 2015

Hello all,

It seems it has been around 6 months since their has been a discussion of the turbo comparisons.

Lets hear from the manufactures as well as the people running these Turbo's.

What turbo do you find to be the best and why?

What are some of the key things you like about one vs the other?

If you could make a new kit based on both turbo kits what would you combine?

Thank you in advance for your input!

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SD_Sling

· #2 · Aug 21, 2015

@jonv turbo kit any day. I know is not one of the choices.

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iNewton

· #3 · Aug 21, 2015

I'd say for the moment Hans has an advantage because he's the only one that gets better tunes before anyone else, but thats the only reason. One day we won't all depend on the mood of one guy to tune out stuff and things will become much more interesting.

kenny_h

· #4 · Aug 21, 2015

Hahn.

2bar map sensor.

Love the plenum box and the fact that the throttle body stays in the stock location.

Haven't had to re tighten any exhaust bolts..

WingShot

· #5 · Aug 21, 2015

These are legitimate questions to ask but its like comparing college football teams. Most of the guys running boost are using stock motors, so its basically a bolt on kit, and these guys use quality parts depending on choice and designing their plumbing.
Boost range is close on both. It ends up coming down to tuning, customer service and location to vendor.

I went to Maggie Valley to see all the turbo kits running at one location, I rode with Alpha, Hahn and Jonv guys, and drove some to see what it was all about. They were all so close, but each had different little things I liked. You hear things like experience,beautiful welds and Tuning. I dont think you will be disappointed with any one of them, The hardest thing to overcome is the ecu tuning and that is a work still in progress, and soon as custom tunes are available it will then come down to who can adjust it to operate best with their equipment choices and still be reliable. I would feel safe in buying any of those 3, they are very close to same money part for part.

I chose ALPHA for the reasons I discussed and am still happy with it, and I know its even going to get better very soon!

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RABTECH

· #6 · Aug 21, 2015

Ill stay out of this thread "for a while".

. Everyone knows what ill say anyway.

I think it will be one of those threads where the people that have a Hahn system praise thiers and the people that have a JonV and Alpha system praise theirs. Really nothing good can come from a thread like this. It's only going to cause a rift in the space/time continuum.....

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WingShot

· #7 · Aug 21, 2015

RABTECH said:
Ill stay out of this thread "for a while". . Everyone knows what ill say anyway.

I think it will be one of those threads where the people that have a Hahn system praise thiers and the people that have a JonV and Alpha system praise theirs. Really nothing good can come from a thread like this. It's only going to cause a rift in the space/time continuum.....

Did you lock your Pom-Poms in the garage?

BlackDeath

Discussion Starter · #8 · Aug 21, 2015

RABTECH said:
Ill stay out of this thread "for a while". . Everyone knows what ill say anyway.

I think it will be one of those threads where the people that have a Hahn system praise thiers and the people that have a JonV and Alpha system praise theirs. Really nothing good can come from a thread like this. It's only going to cause a rift in the space/time continuum.....

Well as I also stated, no matter who you cheer for I am sure there are pieces you would take from each one to make the "Ultimate Turbo Kit" Even if it is just aesthetics. So lets here it!

Shack

· #9 · Aug 21, 2015

There is a track day in Florida coming in October that will have Hahn and alpha turbos. Not that it it will be apples to apples, but I think it'll be the first official race between the two, I could be wrong. Too bad no jonv's will be there....

1poser

· #10 · Aug 21, 2015

My .02,
Hahn most expensive (for their 2x Kit), best 2bar map tune, ability to run higher boost and upgrades down the road.

Alpha lowest cost and with good workmanship, good 2bar map tune as well.

JonV most effective and quality workmanship for mid range price, capable of upgrading for higher performance.

I chose JonV's for these reasons,

1-AvaiIability, I can get one installed before SSITR event.
2-I like the idea of a header system with equal length tubing and beautiful workmanship.
3-I like where his intercooler is above and not restricting air flow to the OEM radiator, down the road I'm going to do a hood scoop so air is directed through the intercooler.

All three systems accomplishes the same thing-more power and all three have proven it's reliability.

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BlackDeath

Discussion Starter · #11 · Aug 21, 2015

Shack said:
There is a track day in Florida coming in October that will have Hahn and alpha turbos. Not that it it will be apples to apples, but I think it'll be the first official race between the two, I could be wrong. Too bad no jonv's will be there....

Nice let me know when and where that is. Maybe I will take a trip down there to see it :wideyed:

RABTECH

· #12 · Aug 21, 2015

@1poser Alpha has no 2bar tune yet. I'm sure its coming but not at this time. Someone correct me if they know differently.

BlackDeath

Discussion Starter · #13 · Aug 21, 2015

1poser said:
My .02,
Hahn most expensive (for their 2x Kit), best 2bar map tune, ability to run higher boost and upgrades down the road.

Alpha lowest cost and with good workmanship, good 2bar map tune as well.

JonV most effective and quality workmanship for mid range price, capable of upgrading for higher performance.

I chose JonV's for these reasons,

1-AvaiIability, I can get one installed before SSITR event.
2-I like the idea of a header system with equal length tubing and beautiful workmanship.
3-I like where his intercooler is above and not restricting air flow to the OEM radiator, down the road I'm going to do a hood scoop so air is directed through the intercooler.

All three systems accomplishes the same thing-more power and all three have proven it's reliability.

How much better is the flow and would it increase the HP? I know equal length tubing is supposed to be better and yes it is sexy.
Could you Just get a JonV header and have say an Alpha kit made to work with it?

SlingbladeSL

· #14 · Aug 21, 2015

Shack said:
There is a track day in Florida coming in October that will have Hahn and alpha turbos. Not that it it will be apples to apples, but I think it'll be the first official race between the two, I could be wrong. Too bad no jonv's will be there....

Can I be the orange (LE) since you're going to have apples to apples no turbo I just want to race

Kenneth Miller

· #15 · Aug 21, 2015

RABTECH said:
@1poser Alpha has no 2bar tune yet. I'm sure its coming but not at this time. Someone correct me if they know differently.

Rab: You are correct about Alpha. I have conversed with Henry this week and Alpha's 2 bar MAP sensor tune will be available around the first week in September. I know this as I am waiting for it. Performance wise, Alpha is catching up to Hahn, however, personally, I think you are talking 6 or half dozen of the other when it comes to all available turbos. There is only so much you can get out of the SS with the internals it has . Also, it appears to me that most people are staying with manufacturers closest to home. With Alpha, in my estimation, you are getting more bang for your buck but you cannot go wrong with any of them, except the EBAY turbos. Anyone, got the EBAY version yet?

Shack

· #16 · Aug 21, 2015

I think there are 6 spots left...

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1poser

· #17 · Aug 21, 2015

BlackDeath said:
How much better is the flow and would it increase the HP? I know equal length tubing is supposed to be better and yes it is sexy.
Could you Just get a JonV header and have say an Alpha kit made to work with it?

Don't know that data BD, me personally I just like that design.
JonV won't sell you just his Turbo Header (at least at this time) especially if he knows what you're going to do with it, he doesn't like people butchering his work or kits because he stands behind them!
Now if you're willing to buy an Alpha kit and a JonV kit...hell...you can do anything you want, you paid for 2 kits

BlackDeath

Discussion Starter · #18 · Aug 21, 2015

1poser said:
Don't know that data BD, me personally I just like that design.
JonV won't sell you just his Turbo Header (at least at this time) especially if he knows what you're going to do with it, he doesn't like people butchering his work or kits because he stands behind them!
Now if you're willing to buy an Alpha kit and a JonV kit...hell...you can do anything you want, you paid for 2 kits

Haha I get it... I am the same way, I take pride in my work. I think I am going to hold off and see how all these companies shake out. I would also like to be involved in the install process with some guidance from the experienced guys. I would have to plan a trip out to where they are located and see if I can work out the details to be involved in the install

RABTECH

· #19 · Aug 21, 2015

BlackDeath said:
Haha I get it... I am the same way, I take pride in my work. I think I am going to hold off and see how all these companies shake out. I would also like to be involved in the install process with some guidance from the experienced guys. I would have to plan a trip out to where they are located and see if I can work out the details to be involved in the install

Your a long way from Alabama. I would gladly help you if you were closer.

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BlackDeath

Discussion Starter · #20 · Aug 21, 2015

RABTECH said:
Your a long way from Alabama. I would gladly help you if you were closer.

I would ride somewhere to take a trip for sure. I am confident I can install it. Would be nice to do it with the Manufacture / Fellow SS owner. Since you have a Hahn turbo I am not sure if I chose something else you would want to help haha :smuggrin:

Give or take it is about 20hrs
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Mas...43553c8cce9!2m2!1d-86.902298!2d32.3182314!5i1

What do you think about the JonV's Inter-Cooler location?

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